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 Post subject: NOISE ABATEMANT
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:58 pm 
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Open letter to the membership regarding noise abatement at our flying site.

The following may not be a popular idea but I feel this is a vitally important subject that needs to be discussed.

The recent complaint about noise from a Ranchos resident should not be written off as some crack pot curmudgeon complaint. It is something that we should take very seriously.

Despite having a reasonably long term lease on our field there are two factors that could jeopardize our ability to use our field…specially for gas and nitro powered aircraft. These two factors would be...the development of the property that we fly over but do not lease to the North…the second is continued complaints regarding noise from our neighbors to the West. If these complaints reach Madera County officials we could easily loose our ability to fly the gas and nitro and even electric powered planes at our field.

Flying fields have been permanently lost because of noise for as long as I have been in the hobby of model planes…and, like many of you, that has been fifty plus years! Take Fresno for instance...for years there has been an ordinance prohibiting model airplane flying…sure it was a safety issue but equally a noise issue as well.

Here is an idea I would like to propose to the membership:

1. Appoint a committee chairman with two assistants (or attach this reponsibility to the Field Committee) to be in charge of noise abatement at the field and policing same.

2. Purchase one or two DB meters (available for purchase for $50 from Radio Shack http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12680845 ) and required accessories, tri pod, etc.

3. That we adopt the AMA recommendations http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/927.pdf and methods for noise abatement at our field for all members all days. These standards could be waved, or noise limits raised, for special major events outside of club activities like IMAC, Scale Masters, etc…and example of this would be Laguna Seca Raceway in Monterey County where DB levels are monitored daily but are suspended for a number of days out of the year when major competitions are held. During and event where our noise abatement standards are lifted the noise abatement committee would distribute flyers to out nearby neighbors inviting them to spectate and enjoy the special day of competition.

4. Re-establish the fields hours of operation and post signs at the gate, bulletin board and pilot stations. Signs should also indicate that noise abatement standards are in place at all times.

5. Penalty for violation of the noise abatement standards would need to be established. I would suggest...first time warning, second time loss of flying privileges for a period of time (one or two months?), third time would be revocation of membership.

Probably not a popular idea, and we have had very few complaints over the years but we need to become pro-active on this before it is too late . Guys I have witnessed large clubs in the Bay Area where their fields were in pretty remote areas loose those fields and significant investment due to the noise issue. There isn't an engine made that we use that does not have efficient mufflers available that would comply to the AMA recommendations.

What say you?

Gary Rosa


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 Post subject: Re: NOISE ABATEMANT
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:34 am 
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Gary

Sorry I didnt respond to this sooner.I agree with many of your points.I do think it shouldnt be necessary to have to appoint noise police or other mandatory enforcement actions.I think it is more about education.Ive also found that "field committee" is an extremely loose definition with no clear guidelines.Everyone seems to do what they want without communicating with a central organizer.As I see it for all practical purposes the entire membership is the "field committee" and everyone is in charge.There are no clear guidelines or channels of communication for direction of operations.Free for all seems to be my perception of how it works.I hesitate to cite specific incidents and its probably a good idea to bring this up at the board level first and go from there.I really think alot of things get alot more difficult than they need to be.I have brought it up at a few meetings but my hope is to get more members involved to express some interest in how some of these things get addressed.This forum would be an ideal place for many of these ongoing discussions.There simply isnt enough time to address them on a timely basis and indepth enough at the meetings alone.Im not sure how that is going to work for the members that dont even have or know how to use electronic media but the reality is that it is the age we now live in.IMO it is a huge disadvantage to any attempts to move forward and evolve as a club to not take advantage of it.

Scott


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 Post subject: Re: NOISE ABATEMANT
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:55 am 
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Scott, I know you have brought this up to me in the past. I have been considering it. I will try to address it in my monthly letter. Hopefully, I can get more members on board with all of us working together.

Matt Raymond


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 Post subject: Re: NOISE ABATEMANT
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:03 pm 
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I think it should be addressed, if someone has a loud model. The club should have a sound meter to spot check according to AMA standards. That way a potentially loud model is determined to be within limits or not. There should be no hard feelings because it is or isn't loud based upon the test. You could defray the cost by having a test day/weekend where you get your model checked for a $1-2 fee each model and you know out of curiousity if it's okay.


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 Post subject: Re: NOISE ABATEMANT
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:01 pm 
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We have active monitors in place. Loud planes will be warned. We have not had issues yet, but we are listening.

Matt Raymond


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